Steve Gadd is one of the most respected drummers of all time. Equally at
home on stage or in the studio, comfortable in all styles from intricate jazz
to the simplest pop, Gadd brings impeccable taste, feel, and musicianship
to every project he graces. No wonder he's been the drummer of choice for
Paul Simon, James Taylor, Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder, Steely Dan,
Barbra Streisand, Eric Clapton, Carly Simon, Chick Corea, Frank Sinatra,
and countless other artists.
Yamaha recently celebrated their 30 year relationship with Gadd by releasing
the limited-edition Steve Gadd 30th Anniversary Drum Kit, a fastidious
replica of the custom Yamaha kit Steve has used on countless recordings.
It incorporates a number of Gadd's signature innovations, such as a mix of
maple and birch shells and the use of a high 10" tom.
Gadd lives in Rochester, New York, the town where he grew up. But when we
tracked him down, he was in New York City rehearsing with Paul Simon for
an upcoming album and tour.
How old were you when you decided to become a drummer?
Well, I never really decidedI always just did it. I started drumming when
I was three. I don't remember making any conscious decisionit's just
what I knew how to do.
Were your parents musicians?
No, but they were music lovers. And my uncle was a drummerhe
showed me how to hold the sticks. My parents were very supportive. They
bought me records to listen to and took me to hear a lot of great drummers.
Which ones made an impression?
Gene Krupa. Buddy Rich. Louis Bellson. Elvin Jones. Art Blakey. Joe Jones. Philly Joe Jones. Max Roach. I got to hear all those guys.
You started out playing jazz. What prompted you to focus on pop and
rock drumming as well?
Well, jazz guys play a lot of notes, and pop music is often simpler. When
I got to New York after being in the Army and graduating from school, I
got a chance to hear a lot of other younger drummers. They were playing
more groove-oriented music. That challenged me and gave me a new
awareness. I remember hearing Rick Marotta, who's a very deep-pocket
player. I realized that what sounded very open and simple and un-technical
was actually very challenging to play, because it was about putting every
note where it felt good. It was an eye-opener.
Was there a particular record you worked on that marked a turning
point toward that more simplified style?
It was a process, not an event. And it's still a process. Even now when I
play jazz, I think more in terms of a basic groove. Not necessarily a repetitive
beat, just coming up with a groove that feels right.
Some of the work that established your name was incredibly innovative
for its day. It seems like you got to collaborate with artists who
afforded you a great deal of creative leeway.
It depended who I was working with. Some people didn't want a lot of
busy stuff. At the same time, I was able to play with jazz guys who did
want busier things. I didn't get locked into any particular category. As far
as coming up with innovative ideas, that's not just about me. It's always a
group effort involving the artist, the producer, and the other musicians.
You want something that's good for the song and also interesting.
Basically, you're trying to pull a rabbit out of the hat.
How has your gig changed over the years?
The types of gigs I play have changed. The venues tend to be larger
fewer clubs, more concerts. There are more situations where I play alone
in the studio, overdubbing my part. But there are still a lot of sessions
where everyone plays together. Sometimes it's both. I recently did a project
with Al DiMeola where John Patitucci and I played together, but Al and
[pianist] Barry Miles had already recorded their parts to click.

You've played Yamaha drums for 30 years.
Yesever since I went to Japan 30 years ago. Yamaha was supplying my
drums, and I got to meet Hagi. [Takahashi Hagiwara, who spearheaded
Yamaha's drum division for many years.] They approached meno one
had ever done that before! So I asked for a few changes in the way they
were putting drums together. For example, Yamaha's hardware was
always good, but they used to have a metal rod going down the middle of
the bass drum to support the tom-tom rack. There were internal tone controls
too. I wanted all that stuff taken out, and I wanted to start with a 10"
tom instead of a 12".
What does the smaller tom provide?
You can loosen up a small drum and make it sound big and deep. You can
also tighten it up so it speaks with a high pitch. But you can't get a 12"
drum to go that high without choking up. It was one of the things I'd discovered
when I put together my previous kit. That process taught me a lot
of things. I learned the difference between one- and two-headed toms, and
decided I like two-headed ones. I learned you can make small drums
sound big. I realized I liked having two floor toms on one stand. I'd settled
on a configuration of 10", 12", 13", and 14" toms, and I also had 15" and
16" toms I could add if I needed them. I was able to put together all sorts
of combinations. So Yamaha built me a kit just like that.
Has that setup changed much over the years?
Much of it stays the same, but there are ongoing changes. For example, years
ago I played all birch drums, but now I use a maple bass drum with birch
toms. When I first started, I didn't even know what the drums were made ofI just liked the sound of the Yamaha's Birch Recording series. But at some
point I had a chance to play shells of various woods side by side, and I realized
I like the bottom of the maple. So now I almost always use a maple bass
drum, birch toms, and a steel snare.
Why steel?
I've always just liked steel snares. When Yamaha wanted to make a signature
steel snare for me, I wanted consistency, a big tuning range, and a
simple setup. That's exactly what they did. And if it's not broke, why fix it?
Yamaha just issued the 30th Anniversary Steve Gadd Signature
Drum Kit.
Yes. It's based on my custom kit. I love what my kit does, and they've done
a good job recreating it. I'm happy about the 30th Anniversary Kit. I like
the way it looks. I hope people like the way it feels.
What have you learned about getting great sounds in the studio and
onstage?
I just try to get the drums to sound good acoustically, and trust the people
I'm working with to do the rest. I don't get involved with mic-ing at all.
Obviously, we mic everything at big shows. But when I do clinics, I like
there to be more of an acoustic feel, with less coming back to me out of
the house so I can better control things dynamically.
Do you notice any consistently good or bad habits among the young
drummers you encounter in clinics?
I don't think of it as good or badI'm just glad they're interested.
For my part, I just try to share the idea of using the drums to play music to create something that inspires the musicians. I like clinics to be a big
hang, not a performance. I'm there to be with them as a fellow musician,
to demonstrate things, answer questions, and be supportive. I try to
address whatever scary questions come into young people's heads when
they're trying to enter the field and make a living at it. I always say, do what
you love. If your career happens, that's great. But I didn't do this to make
my career happen. I did it because I loved it. I was just lucky to love it
enough to keep doing it until people wanted to check me out. I can't guarantee
that will happen for everyone. But if I can do it, you can do it. If you
love to play, and if you think about music the way I have, I guarantee you'll
have a great time.
Of all the records you've played on, are some especially close to
your heart?
I don't think of it that way. I try to do my best on everything. Sure, some
records became more popular than others, and I'm proud of the fact
that people have heard them and liked them. I loved the stuff I did
with Paul Simon, with Chick Corea, with Eric Clapton. But I did lots of
great music along the way. Maybe some of it wasn't so technical, and
maybe my parts didn't especially stick out. But they were all challenges,
and they all taught me things, so I like them all. I've had a good ride. It's
nice to be a drummer.

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